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The Australian government can’t keep its head in the sand and hope the chaos of the Trump administration will just go away. Dr Emma Shortis and Greg Jericho join Glenn Connley to discuss how Australia can navigate what Canadian PM Mark Carney calls the Trump “rupture”. A time for Bravery: what happens when Australia chooses courage (https://australiainstitute.org.au/sto...) is available now via Australia Institute Press. Use the code ‘POD5’ at checkout to save $5 off the price – available for a limited time only. Guest: Emma Shortis, Director, International & Security Affairs, the Australia Institute // @emmashortis (https://bsky.app/profile/emmashortis....) Guest: Greg Jericho, Chief Economist, the Australia Institute // @grogsgamut (https://bsky.app/profile/grogsgamut.b...) Host: Glenn Connley, Senior Media Advisor, the Australia Institute // @glennconnley (https://bsky.app/profile/glennconnley...) Show notes: After America (https://australiainstitute.org.au/new...) , the Australia Institute Dollars & Sense (https://australiainstitute.org.au/new...) , the Australia Institute The IMF’s banal language is sane-washing an economic crisis created by the egomaniacal Donald Trump (https://www.theguardian.com/commentis...) by Greg Jericho, Guardian Australia (January 2026) What the IMF actually said about Australia’s economy (https://thepoint.com.au/news/260122-w...) by Greg Jericho, The Point (January 2026) Shorter America this week: Trust is rust; It’s the white supremacy, stupid; Five Eyes goes cross-eyed (https://thepoint.com.au/news/260124-s...) by Emma Shortis, The Point (January 2026) Theme music: Pulse and Thrum; additional music by Blue Dot Sessions We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to podcasts@australiainstitute.org.au (mailto:podcasts@australiainstitute.org.au) . Support Follow the Money: https://nb.australiainstitute.org.au/... See omnystudio.com/listener (https://omnystudio.com/listener) for privacy information.