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MinnMax's Ben Hanson sets up a discussion between the game director for Obsidian's Pentiment Josh Sawyer and Immortality's director Sam Barlow, two of 2022's critical darlings. The two developers talk about the similarities between their two games, the key ingredients for a compelling murder mystery, and what they want to work on in the future. If you enjoy this type of discussion, please subscribe to MinnMax's YouTube channel or unlock the podcast version here - / minnmax To jump to a particular discussion, check out the timestamps below... 00:00:00 - Intro 00:01:48 - Sam Barlow and Josh Sawyer on the similarities between their games 00:08:02 - Xbox fanboys and the impact of Game Pass 00:13:51 - The influence of The Devils on Immortality 00:15:48 - The origins of Pentiment 00:26:39 - Creative burnout in the game industry 00:37:45 - Spoilers for Pentiment 00:42:07 - Inspiration for Pentiment 00:44:40 - The value of a "eureka" moment in a story 01:03:26 - Tracking the narrative thread in Pentiment 01:08:47 - Planting clues in a detective story 01:15:13 - The value of limited movement in games 01:18:22 - Their plans for the future 01:26:02 - Sexy monks versus accurate monks Follow us on Twitch - / minnmaxshow Please support us on Patreon - / minnmax Watch our solo stream archives - https://bit.ly/3vRAQb Buy MinnMax merch here - https://minnmax.com/merch Follow us on Twitter - / minnmaxshow Go behind the scenes on Instagram - / minnmaxshow Become a Game Champion by supporting MinnMax at the $50 tier on Patreon and lock in the game of your choice! / minnmax Herdy Gerdy - STUDIO HOIHO Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords: Restored Content Mod - Logan Krause Sly 2: Band of Thieves - ProcyonNumber6 Yakuza: Like a Dragon - Jesse Spencer Final Fantasy VIII but only Disc 1-3 - Malcolm Holliday Irritating Stick - Patrick Polk Total Annihilation - 5eth Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance - Joshua Ayers Don’t Starve: Shipwrecked - Clemens Zobel Half-Life: Alyx - Maniac Dark Cloud - Andres Silva Simpsons Wrestling - Jawarhello Donkey Kong Country - JustusLeague