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To listen to more of Gerald Edelman’s stories, go to the playlist: • Gerald Edelman (Scientist) Biologist Gerald Edelman (1929-2014) was born in America. His early work concentrated on the study of immunology and he was jointly awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1972 for his work leading to the understanding of the antibody’s chemical structure. [Listeners: Ralph J Greenspan; date recorded: 2005] TRANSCRIPT: I remember being visited, of all things, by Leo Szilard – the great physicist, one of the brilliant minds of the time – and I remember his position... speak about Pauling, it was the same kind of thing. He came in surrounded by three or four admirers and he said, 'All right, I have 18 minutes; what's the problem?' And Joe Gally, as a matter of fact, said, 'Well, we're working on this quenching relationship.' There's a certain equation called the Stern-Volmer equation and we were having trouble solving it under a particular set of conditions and here was this brilliant physicist, so we proffered, and he pushed it aside and he said, 'That is not... that's not interesting; I'm interested in dirty things – tell me about antibodies.' And his... his attention span was not great, so in the middle of it he said, 'All right, what about this fluorescence?' And Joe proffered this thing again. He said, 'I don't need that', and Joe said, 'If you don't want to listen to the facts, there's no use in talking', and he walked away. And Szilard said to me, 'Who was that?' And I said, 'My first-year graduate student.' He was sort of dumbfounded.