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"For me, when I read the book, it’s not so much reading the simple text that you see before you, but it’s remembering things that my mother and father taught us as siblings growing up. These were daily lessons that we were taught. And in some ways, it’s a source of great pride, and in other ways, it’s a bit of pain to think that other people did not have the opportunities that I did." Suzanne had the opportunity to speak with John Nicholas, a member of Munsee-Delaware Nation, whose parents Grey Owl and Little Pigeon wrote Cry of the Ancients, published in 1974. They discuss how the book developed over time, the legacy of its teachings, and its relevance today. John and Suzanne connect themes in the book with their research trips to museums in Germany and the US, where they visited with ancestor belongings from the Munsee community 00:00:00 Introduction. 00:01:44 Interview with John Nicholas. 00:46:59 Wrap up. -- The Spouter-Inn is a podcast where Suzanne (a professor) and Chris (a poet) talk about reading. ★ Show notes: https://megaphonic.fm/spouter/86b ★ Additional episodes: https://www.megaphonic.fm/spouter/ ★ Hosted by Chris Piuma and Suzanne Conklin Akbari ★ Support us on Patreon: / megaphonic