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It was interesting and very scary standing in the pit of an Ecodisc. There is very little room, only just enough for the lift to come along side you (do not try this if you are fat). This is what I call the base model Ecodisc. It is the bottom of the range. As much as I like Kone, I find this model too cheap. It only has an under chassis. it gets away with this as the 2:1 cabling goes under the lift, but I find this very cheap. The motor is the 1 m/s Ecodisc model and it is only attached to the lift tracks (the more expensive models have some extra supporting metal work) I find this very flimsy. The logic is just as good as all the other ecodiscs (as they all use the same logic). Also the base model also has a few wobbles as it runs, and on inspection it doesn't align the starting phase of the VF to the position of the motor, which causes an alarming jolt when you make it move (as synchronous motors snap to phase). I do like Ecodiscs but after seeing these base model ones everywhere, I feel they are the pathetic version of a good lift. http://beno.org.uk