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We recorded this episode prior to the killing of Renee Good, but the resulting federal crackdown on the protests in Minneapolis has made this conversation even more relevant. That is, there's a need for an anti-fascism movement, especially under Trump 2.0, but where did the theory come from that it is an organized operation? Today, we’re joined by Ken Klippenstein to explore the myth of the “Antifa super soldier” and how worried we should be about the memorandum Trump released in September 2025, “Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence” Our guest Ken Klippenstein is a journalist reporting on US national security and politics. Check out his writings on his Substack (https://www.kenklippenstein.com/) and follow him on the site formerly known as Twitter @kenklippenstein. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Intro 03:00 Antifa & the Trump administration 09:00 From Antifascist movements to Antifa 15:44 Political violence & the left 20:57 Media response 24:25 Is Antifascism a gift to the right? 30:58 The rise of the Antifa Super Soldier 36:47 What can the average person even do? 45:01 How safe is protesting? What are the risks? 48:42 Trump 1.0 vs Trump 2.0 58:09 Where can you find Ken? 58:20 Credits Subscribe to @panicworldpod here on YouTube and wherever you get your podcasts. Panic World is a production of @COURIERHQ . #antifa #trump #ice