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COIN STORIES PODCAST Natalie Brunell is joined by Luke Gromen to share a critical macro update on the U.S. economy, the debt spiral, and what it means for gold and Bitcoin. He explains why the current path is unsustainable—and how investors can prepare. Topics covered include: Why cutting government spending could crash the economy The dangerous “order of operations” policymakers are ignoring How gold, and eventually Bitcoin, could replace U.S. Treasuries as reserve assets Why Wall Street is in denial about what’s coming The role of negative real rates and financial repression What happens if the U.S. revalues gold… and what that means for Bitcoin Luke’s outlook on Bitcoin decoupling from stocks What the next 3–5 months could look like and why the clock is ticking How to prepare for a potential reset in the global monetary system Why Luke says the bottom IS NOT in for Nasdaq, Bitcoin Guest Biography: Luke Gromen is a macroeconomist and the founder & president of Forest for the Trees, a research firm he started in 2014 specializing in global macroeconomic, thematic and sector trends. Luke holds a BBA in Finance and Accounting from the University of Cincinnati and received his MBA from Case Western Reserve University. He earned the CFA designation in 2003. He publishes macro updates at @LukeGromenFFTTLLC Follow Luke on X https://x.com/LukeGromen Coin Stories is powered by Genius Group (NYSE American $GNS). Genius is a Bitcoin-first business delivering AI-powered education and acceleration solutions for the future of work. Learn more and enter for a chance to win a whale pass to Bitcoin 2025 in Las Vegas: https://www.geniusgroup.ai/coinstories Coin Stories is also powered by Bitwse . Bitwise has over $10B in client assets, 32 investment products, and a team of 100+ employees across the U.S. and Europe, all solely focused on Bitcoin and digital assets since 2017. Learn more at https://www.bitwiseinvestments.com Bitdeer Technologies Group (BTDR), a NASDAQ-listed company, is a world-leading technology company for Bitcoin mining and high-performance computing, offering services like hash rate sharing, mining machine hosting, and AI cloud solutions. Learn more at https://www.bitdeer.com NATALIE BRUNELL'S RECOMMENDED BITCOIN PRODUCTS, SERVICES, & EVENTS 🔐 Multisig & Inheritance Planning - Secure your Bitcoin with Casa: https://www.casa.io/natalie (Get a discounted plan!) ⚡ Lightning Payments - Use Speed Lightning Wallet & get 5,000 free sats! Sign up with promo code COINSTORIES10: https://www.speed.app/sweepstakes-pro... 💰 Buy Bitcoin & Earn Interest – Use River and get 3.8% interest on your cash balance: https://partner.river.com/natalie 👩🏫 1-on-1 Bitcoin Help – Self-custody, privacy, and VPN support with The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie 🔒 Bitcoin Cold Storage Security – Save 5% on ColdCard Wallet: https://store.coinkite.com/promo/COIN... 💳 Bitcoin Rewards Credit Card - Earn Bitcoin on every purchase with the Gemini credit card: https://www.gemini.com/natalie 🎟️ Bitcoin 2025 in Las Vegas (May 27-29) – Plus, join me for my 4th Annual Women of Bitcoin Brunch! Get 10% off passes with code HODL: https://tickets.b.tc/affiliate/hodl/e... 📲 SIM Swap Protection – Secure your mobile phone from hacks that could steal your Bitcoin with Efani, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie 🏥 Ditch Fiat Health Insurance – Join CrowdHealth: https://joincrowdhealth.com/natalie (or use promo code NATALIE) 🏕️ Bitcoin Retreat – Camp Nakamoto – Discounted passes with code HODL: https://massadoptionbtc.ticketspice.c... IN THIS COIN STORIES EPISODE 00:00 Will DOGE spending cuts backfire? 08:46 Genius Group 09:20 Bitdeer Technologies Group 09:42 Bitcoin 2025 - Las Vegas, Women of Bitcoin Brunch 09:50 What's happening with the US economy? 15:46 Can the US revalue gold? 19:03 What is Wall Street doing? 21:48 Reprivatizing the economy 29:16 Casa, Speed Wallet 30:07 The Bitcoin Way & Coinkite - securing your Bitcoin 30:50 Can US still be the global reserve currency? 32:47 When will Wall Street recommend Bitcoin? 36:26 Bitcoin and the NASDAQ 39:36 What will save the US economy? OTHER RESOURCES Natalie Brunell’s website https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/ Forest for the Trees https://fftt-llc.com/ VALUE FOR VALUE — SUPPORT NATALIE BRUNELL’S SHOWS Strike ID https://strike.me/coinstoriesnat/ Cash App $CoinStories FOLLOW NATALIE BRUNELL ON SOCIAL MEDIA X https://x.com/natbrunell Instagram / nataliebrunell Producer: Aron Bender / aron-bender Editor: Silas Foley DISCLAIMER Coin Stories is for entertainment purposes only and does not give financial advice. #bitcoin #crypto #bitcoinpodcast