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summary In this conversation, Dr. Nadeem Rizvi discusses the importance of identity politics and the rights of immigrants, particularly the Muhajir community in Pakistan. He emphasizes the need for equal respect and recognition for all individuals, regardless of their ethnic background. Dr. Rizvi also delves into the historical background of the Muhajir community and clarifies the definition of a Muhajir. The conversation then shifts to the topic of nationalism and ethnic identity in Sindh, highlighting the discrimination faced by Muhajirs in the region. The disenfranchisement of immigrants, especially in Karachi, is also discussed, with a focus on the role of Altaf Hussain and the MQM party. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the objectives and principles of Matruka Sindh, a movement advocating for the rights of Muhajirs and the importance of land, language, and culture in national identity. "The oldest literature in human history, the important book is The Republic written by Socrates and Plato" "Muhajirs are for human equality, not superiority and this is our right" "The definition of a Muhajir is very simple: people who migrated to Pakistan and consider themselves Muhajirs" Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Background 02:42 Importance of Identity Politics and Immigrant Rights 04:22 Understanding the Muhajir Community and their Historical Background 10:28 Nationalism and Ethnic Identity in Sindh 20:20 Disenfranchisement of Immigrants in Karachi 33:45 The Role of Altaf Hussain and the MQM Party 46:07 Objectives and Principles of Matruka Sindh