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Metis isn’t just an Ethereum L2 anymore. It wants to become the first AI-native blockchain economy. In this episode, we sit down with Tom, CEO of Metis, to talk about how the project is moving from a typical Ethereum Layer 2 toward an AI-native blockchain ecosystem and what it really means beyond buzzwords. Here’s what we unpack together: Why Metis says “we’re not just an L2” and how their AI pivot has actually been in the works for over 18 months What an AI-native blockchain looks like in real life, not just in theory Why verified data is the core of AI on-chain and how concepts like Lazbubu are making data something you can actually own and interact with How AI agents could make blockchain invisible for users What it takes to lead a team through a major shift while staying true to the original vision ——— Timestamps 00:00 Introduction to Metis and Its Vision 03:55 Transitioning to AI: The New Frontier 06:56 Personal Journey into Blockchain and Metis 09:48 The Importance of Data in AI and Blockchain 13:00 Navigating Market Pressures and User Expectations 16:04 The Unified Experience of Andromeda and Hyperion 19:09 The Future of AI in Blockchain 22:12 LazBubu: Making Data Playable 24:47 Innovation and the Path Forward 27:56 Defining Success in the Blockchain Space ——— Resources Tom Ngo https://x.com/tomngodefi Rea https://x.com/reredameow Follow AthenaX on: X: https://bit.ly/3WRv6wv Spotify: https://bit.ly/4hRstEL TikTok: https://bit.ly/4qpQFBT Instagram: https://bit.ly/4qEYiVs Apple Podcast: https://bit.ly/43LoELl