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As much as I want to keep the ChUG podcast light and useful, we've entered a time where every piece of news we hear from the current administration is highly concerning. The media is discussing the stock market using stock images of people grabbing their face with their hands, we hear of NIH cuts and layoffs, and uncertainty is the only variable that is constant. I was happy to have Camille Stegen, Kathy Kluepfel, and Daniel Vocelle to discuss and provide some sense of clarity on how to move forward. So this is not as fun a discussion as we usually have, but I think it's a necessary one. Link to the Bulwark : / @bulwarkmedia Link to Andrea Love's website : https://www.immunologic.org 0:00 - Intro, how are people doing and the splashing effect of the insanity 18:40 - The perception of science in society, convincing and building trust with the public using viability dyes (possibly), scientific communicators and 'doing your own research', what we can do - marches/conversations with opposition/calling your elected representatives, a Canadian example of standing up against poor political decisions 52:01 - The fraud and waste canard, the actual waste and what it looks like, current guardrail against waste, The CyTOF example and David's pointless story, what can the flow community do better. 1:19:00 - The Royal Academy of Internal Flow Cytometry Affairs and future podcasts 1:23:22 - Outro The opinions expressed in RAIFCA podcasts are those of the individual participants and do not necessarily reflect the views of their employers or other RAIFCA presenters.