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What does genius look like up close? And what does friendship with genius demand? In this intimate and candid conversation, Pulitzer Prize winner Tim Page reflects on his profound friendship with Glenn Gould — not just the legendary pianist, but the private, searching human being behind the recordings. We explore his rediscovery of Dawn Powell and the passion behind his acclaimed biography that helped restore her place in American literature. From the composers he loves most to his lifelong devotion to teaching and inspiring others, this conversation moves naturally toward a larger question: where are classical and pop music headed today? 0:00 Intro and warm welcome 0:58 Acknowledgment of the day and setting the pace 1:11 The origin of the Gould friendship 8:38 Dawn Powell introduced; why Tim loves her 12:36 How Tim discovered Dawn Powell 14:49 Bringing Dawn Powell back into print; diaries and letters 20:07 Dawn Powell films and adaptation history 22:30 Dawn Powell and New York; pop culture connections 37:35 The Glenn Gould interview lineage and related conversations 39:58 The Gould catalogue and official releases 52:33 Finding your own path after Gould’s example 61:52 Pop music vs. classical; River Man discussion 66:58 Does the music world have hope? A nuanced take 74:41 Substack and teaching; the why behind the page 79:45 Autism and Parallel Play; moving to the personal 83:38 Encouragement to continue and future conversations 92:56 Closure and plans to talk again 📚 Tim Page The Glenn Gould Reader https://a.co/d/0cAIfvri Parallel Play https://a.co/d/05VhRY4b Dawn Powell: A Biography https://a.co/d/0cmsqTIO Follow Tim Page on Substack https://substack.com/@timpage54 ⸻ 🎧 Glenn Gould Recordings Referenced Salzburg 1959 Live – Goldberg Variations https://classical.music.apple.com/ca/... Goldberg Variations (1955 & 1981) https://classical.music.apple.com/ca/... Mozart: Piano Concerto No. 24, K.491 Leonard Bernstein & New York Philharmonic (1959 Live Broadcast) • Mozart Piano Concerto n24 K491 - Gould - B... ⸻ 🎹 Pianists & Musicians Discussed James Friskin • Bach Goldberg Variations 1 14 ... https://classical.music.apple.com/ca/... Rebecca Clarke • Why does Rebecca Clarke's Sonata for Viola... https://classical.music.apple.com/ca/... Dina Ugorskaja https://classical.music.apple.com/ca/... https://open.spotify.com/artist/4tQAf... Josef Hofmann / josef-hofmann Vladimir de Pachmann / vladimir-de-pachmann William Masselos https://open.spotify.com/artist/459Uw... Masselos – Ives Piano Sonata No. 1 https://open.spotify.com/album/3twXvp... Masselos – Schumann Davidsbündlertänze, Op. 6 https://open.spotify.com/album/1vDEDa... Horacio Gutiérrez https://open.spotify.com/artist/1A0qL... Horacio Gutiérrez – Schumann Fantasy & Chopin Preludes, Op. 28 https://open.spotify.com/album/3yjKFV... ⸻ 🎼 Composers Referenced Charles Ives https://open.spotify.com/artist/73s17... Franz Liszt https://open.spotify.com/artist/1385h... Aaron Copland https://open.spotify.com/artist/0nJvy... Robert Schumann https://open.spotify.com/artist/2UqjD... Frederick Delius https://open.spotify.com/artist/65YhY... / frederick-delius Delius – Cello Concerto (Jacqueline du Pré) https://open.spotify.com/album/3CQk8V... ⸻ 🎵 Contemporary Artists Mentioned Nick Drake – River Man https://open.spotify.com/track/3Uh7rA... • Nick Drake - River Man (Video) Okkervil River https://open.spotify.com/artist/5E7zS... The High Llamas https://open.spotify.com/artist/4C6mJ... The Magnetic Fields https://open.spotify.com/artist/6RWjT... Brian Wilson https://open.spotify.com/artist/4Q82S... ⸻ 🎥 Archival Footage David Hoffman & Tim Page (National TV, 1968) • David Hoffman Filmmaker (27 Yrs.Old) & TIm...