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Host: Steve Macchia, Guest: James Hauptman "If God's going to be in the center of our lives, we have to be willing to let him come in and take over every single aspect of our lives." - Steve Macchia In this episode of The Discerning Leader Podcast, Steve Machia and James Hauptman explore how a personal rule of life is ultimately lived out in community. Drawing from ancient Christian wisdom and the monastic tradition, they reflect on the purpose of a rule of life as a way of safeguarding love—honoring one another, nurturing unity, and choosing commitment over convenience. With biblical insight and practical examples, this conversation invites leaders and churches to imagine what could happen if we truly preferred one another and allowed our shared life together to become a living witness of God's transforming presence. Join the conversation about spiritual discernment as a way of life at www.LeadershipTransformations.org (http://www.leadershiptransformations.org) and consider participation in our online and in-person program offerings. Additional LTI spiritual formation resources can be found at www.SpiritualFormationStore.com (http://www.spiritualformationstore.com) and www.ruleoflife.com (http://www.ruleoflife.com) and www.healthychurch.net (http://www.healthychurch.net) .