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I've been a fan of Derek Webb since 1999. His early music speaks about a rigorous reformed spirituality that I resonated with strongly as a believer. His latest album, Fingers Crossed, is a tale of spiritual and marital divorce, and tackles the grief and confusion in their wake. Last Thursday I sat down with singer-songwriter Derek Webb in Buffalo before a house show. We had a great conversation about his music, spiritual skills, and about the time he nearly killed RC Sproul. It's a longish video, so I've broken down our conversation below with handy-dandy selecty buttons below. Enjoy! 1:37 Fingers Crossed--the album, name, and tour 9:19 New record, Targets, in early 2019 11:55 Meeting Derek's music in Bible college and the God-shaped chasm 15:15 What remains after religion ends 21:16 Assigning meaning because there isn't any inherent 28:52 Songs and liturgy as something we don't believe but aspire to believe 32:22 Not giving God everything in the divorce, and post-deconversion sanctification 43:02 No one can bypass their own processing, and we all have our feet planted in mid-air 51:31 Destroying another person's belief system is the cruelest thing you can do--evangelism is dangerous 57:19 Faith is a gift of God, and what it would take for us to believe agian 1:02:16 Derek nearly kills RC Sproul but it was predetermined since the foundation of the earth that he not.