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In this episode of We’ve Got a Message, Theresa (We’ve Got This) and Philippa (Messenger Coaching and Consulting) explore the identity shift that happens when someone becomes a people manager—stepping into leadership for the first time. We reflect on our own early experiences in leadership, what we’ve learned from coaching first-time managers, and the difference between being good at your job and leading others to thrive in theirs. This episode is packed with real-life insight and honest reflection. We ask: What do new leaders need that they rarely get? What makes the step into management so emotionally complex? What advice would we give to our younger selves? Whether you're supporting early-career managers, stepping into leadership yourself, or revisiting what leadership means to you now—this is a conversation about ownership, vulnerability, and growth. 💬 Series 3 is all about The Inner Work of Leadership. This episode speaks straight to the heart of it.