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Journalist Jasmine Sun breaks down the Chinese peptides phenomenon that's turned Silicon Valley into a gray market biotech testing ground, where people are ordering experimental compounds for $50 a pop from Chinese factories and mixing them in their basements. Sun, who just published a major New York Times piece on the trend, explains how GLP-1 drugs like Ozempic opened the door for tech workers to start self-experimenting with everything from the "Wolverine stack" for muscle recovery to peptides for longevity, sleep, and cognition—complete with peptide raves in San Francisco and group chats comparing stacks at house parties. The conversation covers the science behind peptides, the risks of unregulated biohacking, and why this DIY approach to biotech is both a product of American pharmaceutical dysfunction and a window into the broader U.S.-China technology competition. Sun also discusses her work on an upcoming AI book, why AGI timelines have faded from tech discourse, and her thesis that AI progress is "jagged"—capable of folding proteins but unable to count the Rs in strawberry. This is Core Memory's first episode of 2026 with new co-host Kylie Robison joining Ashlee Vance. Sun's New York Times piece is here - https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/03/bu... And Robison wrote about Chinese peptides here - https://www.corememory.com/p/sf-rave-... Subscribe to watch more Core Memory videos / @corememoryvideos Check out our podcasts / @corememorypodcast https://www.corememory.com/podcast Find Ashlee Vance at www.corememory.com / ashlee.vance https://x.com/ashleevance Find Kylie Robison at https://x.com/kyliebytes / kylie.robison Chapters 00:00:00 Intro - The Wolverine Stack Explained 00:04:58 The Gray Market Peptide Boom 00:10:50 Cancer Risks and Biohacking Safety 00:13:36 Inside San Francisco’s Peptide Rave 00:19:43 DIY Ozempic and Kitchen Chemistry 00:23:05 RFK Jr. vs The FDA 00:26:43 Is Biohacking a Chinese Psyop? 00:40:44 Leaving Tech for New Media 00:46:29 The Media vs Tech Disconnect 00:53:58 Defense Tech and American Dynamism 01:00:37 Spy Mania and Visa Nightmares 01:08:20 Why AGI Timelines Are Dead