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Xindi and Jessica sit down with Monica Snyder, Executive Director of Secular Pro-Life, to talk about making the pro-life case without religious arguments. They cover practical conversation strategies, common misconceptions, the post-viability debate, and how persuasion works when the goal is actually changing minds—not scoring points. Thank you for watching The Ever-Living Podcast, a heartfelt space to share the stories and voices of women who champion a culture that values and protects life. Each episode we seek to empower, offering connection, hope, and strength through the journeys of those who work and pray for this cause. Crafted for women seeking purpose and community, we welcome you to join us in cherishing every single heartbeat. @secularprolife 00:00 – Intro + welcome 00:25 – Guest intro: Monica Snyder (Secular Pro-Life) 01:08 – “What is Secular Pro-Life?” (mission + framing) 03:25 – Secular talking points for nonreligious audiences 05:00 – Reaching moderates + finding common ground 09:45 – Debunking “things people vaguely heard” (misinfo + clarity) 15:24 – The “30-second pitch” for everyday conversations 16:19 – Post-viability abortions: why it’s persuasive in dialogue 16:41 – Hard cases mentioned (fetal anomaly, rape) 21:00 – What actually changes minds (dialogue + persuasion) 22:29 – The “I care about women, so I’m pro-choice” narrative 25:42 – Politics/party alignment (Democrats/Republicans dynamics) 30:17 – Core moral frame: “whether another human lives or dies” 31:13 – Wrap-up + thanks / “Building Bridges” training mention 32:05 – Outro plug (website + getting involved)