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In this conversation, we're joined by Dr. Steve Llano, Associate Professor of Communication Studies at St. John's University and author of "How to Watch Presidential Debates Without Losing It" (Springer, 2025). Steve teaches a course called "Presidential Debate" and lectures internationally on rhetoric and argumentation. He and Andy have known each other since coaching competitive debate in the early 2000s. We discuss: • The history of presidential debate exclusion, from the League of Women Voters to the Commission on Presidential Debates • Why HB 101 could make Maryland a national model for debate access • Debate education as a firewall against AI manipulation • The fight for shared governance and union recognition at St. John's University Connect with Steve's work: 🔗 YouTube: / stevellano 🔗 Substack: sophisticsteve.substack.com 📬 Email: llanos@stjohns.edu 📚 "How to Watch Presidential Debates Without Losing It" (Palgrave Macmillan, 2025) — 20% off with code PALAUT: https://link.springer.com/book/978303... This is from the full March 5 livestream: https://youtube.com/live/Ibg5702Nkjk --- 🔔 Subscribe to the Youtube Channel 🔗 Follow us on socials: https://linktr.ee/gogreen2026 ✍️ Sign our petition to open up the debates: https://www.gogreen2026.com/debate 💚 Donate to help us qualify for public financing: https://www.gogreen2026.com/donate 📬 Check out our newsletter, Theory of Change: https://newsletter.gogreen2026.com/ #MarylandPolitics #GreenParty #DebateAccess #HB101 #MultipartyDemocracy #DebateEducation #HigherEd #Annapolis