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In this episode, host Odette sits down with Erin Gerner, founder of Powerhouse Lawyers and host of the Powerhouse Lawyers Podcast, for a candid conversation about redefining success in the legal profession. Erin shares her personal journey from big law and in-house roles to building a values-driven business that supports ambitious women lawyers. She opens up about burnout, the realities of motherhood, and the pivotal moment when she realized the traditional legal path was no longer aligned with the life she wanted to lead. Together, Odette and Erin explore what it really means to pivot with intention—without having everything figured out. Erin offers practical, relatable advice for female lawyers who are feeling stuck, exhausted, or quietly wondering, “Is there another way?” This episode covers: Recognizing burnout before it forces a breaking point Giving yourself permission to change direction Why starting “messy” is often the smartest move The power of community, mentorship, and shared experience Taking the first step toward a more intentional and fulfilling legal career Whether you’re in private practice, in-house, or contemplating something entirely different, this conversation will resonate with lawyers who want more autonomy, balance, and purpose—without walking away from their skills or ambition. 🎧 Listen to Erin’s Powerhouse Lawyers Podcast and find her here: 🧳 LinkedIn : / erin-gerner 🎙️Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast... If you're feeling generous, please give us a like and a subscribe! It's free for you and it really helps this little channel grow 📈 Follow us on Social Media: / nonbillablehourspodcast / nonbillablehourspodcast Chapters: 00:00 introduction 02:06 Erin's journey into big law 04:08 2008 financial crisis & leaving Big Law 05:48 signs of being a burnt out lawyer 10:48 motherhood and the legal practice 14:00 mic drop "I quit" moment and rediscovering an identity 16:50 developing her own podcast and her own coaching business 23:30 coaching yourself through lawyer-brain rewiring 28:26 giving yourself permission to do things differently 33:35 the questions you ask yourself when pivoting or leaving the law 35:30 the start of Powerhouse Lawyers Podcast 38:35 your impact cannot be "too small" 40:18 Erin's contact information! 41:10 random question time