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Rosa Brooks, law professor at Georgetown University, discusses how the culture of policing emphasizes danger, defense, and discipline — exploring how police overstate the threat to their livelihood in the line of duty, encouraging the use of force whenever deemed necessary. We stream our live show every day at 12 PM ET. We need your help to keep providing free videos! Support the Majority Report's video content by going to / majorityreport Watch the Majority Report live M–F at 12 p.m. EST at / samseder or listen via daily podcast at http://Majority.FM Download our FREE app: http://majorityapp.com SUPPORT the show by becoming a member: http://jointhemajorityreport.com We Have Merch!!! http://shop.majorityreportradio.com LIKE us on Facebook: / majorityreport FOLLOW us on Twitter: / majorityfm SUBSCRIBE to us on YouTube: / samseder Rosa Brooks: ...the unofficial lesson of the Police Academy is what you were talking about earlier, Sam. We really had sort of instilled in us a sense that anybody could kill you at any moment, and we would hear over and over, there's no such thing as a routine call. Any situation could turn lethal in a millisecond. You always have to be prepared to face a lethal threat. Nobody, no matter how innocent-looking, you can never let your guard down. Don't interview suspects in the kitchen because they could grab a butcher knife and stab you to death. Don't interview suspects in their living room sitting on the sofa because they could have a concealed weapon between the sofa cushions and they could pull out and shoot you. And we were constantly watching these videos of cops getting killed. Cops doing a traffic stop, walking up to the car, somebody pops out with an automatic weapon: dead cop. Cops walk up to domestic violence call, guy opens the door, shoots them dead. And we would talk about these, and analyze these, for... what could the police officers here have done differently? Could they have approached differently? And so on. But as you can probably imagine, the result of all of this was really, I think, to instill young officers with a sense of being under constant threat from every possible source. No matter how seemingly innocuous it might be. And that, needless to say... Well, I think it's worth saying, police do get killed. It happens. You know shortly before I started the Police Academy, there was a young woman in a neighboring jurisdiction on her very first day out of the Police Academy, did go to a domestic violence call with a couple of other officers, guy did pop out the door with a gun, shot and killed her, left two other officers seriously injured. That can happen. But it happens a whole lot less than police officers think it happens. Statistically speaking, it's not very common. And yet if you have these officers who go out into the world primed to view every single interaction as one that could lead to their death, that's clearly going to have a pretty big impact on how they how they interact with people. Sam Seder: I think at one point you suggested that they, the cops that you were with, thought when you asked them how often police officers are killed that they would say they were like 10 to 20 times off. Rosa Brooks: Yeah. And this is a human problem; it's not a cop problem. This is like, you ask people how often people are killed by terrorists or how often children are abducted by random pedophiles at the playground, and they'll give you statistics that are ridiculously out of proportion to the to the actual threat. So in this sense, it's a human tendency to find out about one terrible incident like the one I mentioned where the young woman is shot and killed on her first day on patrol, and it's so shocking you tend to think this must happen all the time, even though statistically it doesn't. ... Rosa Brooks: We also need to be letting them know that that's very rare. That they're going to face a lethal threat, and that if they go into every situation acting like everybody's a threat, what happens is obvious. At the extreme end, you get trigger-happy cops who do what that cop who stopped Philando Castile outside of Minneapolis did a few years back. You know, Castile said, "I have a legal registered firearm, I will show you the paper work." He reached, and the cop panicked and shot him.