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Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde is a leading voice in modern faith leadership and the first woman elected Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington. Known for her calm courage and moral clarity, she has publicly challenged unjust policies, including rebuking President Trump’s use of St. John’s Episcopal Church as a political backdrop and calling for justice for the LGBTQ+ community at a recent inaugural prayer service. In this conversation with Jen, Bishop Budde shares her path from a small Minnesota congregation to the national stage. She reflects on what it means to speak truth to power, stay rooted in sacred conviction, and faithfully show up for justice—even when the risks are high. Featured Guest: Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde Key Topics: • Public faith leadership • Courage and conviction in politics • Sacred responsibility • Justice and inclusion • LGBTQ+ advocacy • Speaking truth to power • The role of the church in national dialogue • Vocational calling • Rebuilding after disillusionment Notable Quotes: “I think, in some ways, vocations choose you as much as you choose them.” – Mariann Edgar Budde “There are consequences to the decisions being made.” – Mariann Edgar Budde “Sometimes I think, maybe I'm not going to be the one to see the shift.” – Mariann Edgar Budde “We've got to be there to help rebuild.” – Mariann Edgar Budde “I want to be in conversation with unusual partners... and understand more.” – Mariann Edgar Budde Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Raygun: Bishop Budde Fan Club T-Shirt - https://www.raygunsite.com/products/b... Receiving Jesus: The Way of Love by Mariann Edgar Budde - https://amzn.to/45GO5jh How We Learn to Be Brave: Decisive Moments in Life and Faith by Mariann Edgar Budde - https://amzn.to/4kbZtan Sermon by The Right Rev. Mariann Edgar Budde | Washington National Cathedral, 1.21.25 - • Sermon by The Right Rev. Mariann Edgar Bud... Love is the Game Changer of Our Faith: Bishop Michael Curry - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/seri... Goodness Triumphs Through Good People: A Year-End Benediction from Bishop Michael Curry – https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/seri... Austin Channing Brown - https://austinchanning.com/ Tim Shriver - https://www.timothyshriver.com/ The Dignity Index - https://www.timothyshriver.com/projec... Jen Hatmaker Traded Religious Rules for Spiritual Practices - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Building Bridges, Not Walls: Tim Shriver on Dignity that Transcends Disagreements - https://jenhatmaker.com/podcasts/seri... Bryan Stevenson - https://eji.org/bryan-stevenson/ I Believe in the Sun - • I Believe in the Sun - Mark Miller - Sydne... Guest’s Links: Website - https://edow.org/about/bishop-mariann/ Instagram - / mariannbudde Facebook - / bishopmariannbudde TikTok - / mariann_edgar_budde_ Connect with Jen! Jen’s Website - https://jenhatmaker.com/ Jen’s Instagram - / jenhatmaker Jen’s Twitter - / jenhatmaker Jen’s Facebook - / jenhatmaker Jen’s YouTube - / jenhatmaker The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy.