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Brendan O’Neill discusses his new book, "After the Pogrom: 7 October, Israel and the Crisis of Civilisation". https://reason.com/podcast/2024/12/04... 0:00- Introduction 1:16- O’Neill’s new book: "After The Pogrom" 5:48- Hamas is religious extremist movement 11:10- Islamism as extreme rejection of modernity 16:57- Is being anti-Zionist punk? 18:40- The ‘cultural appropriation’ of the Keffiyeh 21:17- Is Israel a white settler-colonialist state? 24:28- When did the left turn against Israel? 28:53- Is antisemitism connected to anti-capitalism? 32:30- The demonization of Israel 33:40- Palestine as the Omni-cause 35:34- The madness of Queers for Palestine 39:29- The catastrophe of post-Oct. 7 progressivism 43:34- Did Oct. 7 accelerate the collapse of wokeness? 46:40- How much should the west be supporting Israel’s war effort? 51:28- O’Neill’s political evolution 53:21- How gay liberation differed from the trans movement 58:22- Today’s young activists seek institutional approval 1:00:50- How Marxism & Trotsky influenced O’Neill 1:04:14- Critics of Zionism in 1930s-40s Europe Today's guest is Brendan O'Neill, chief political writer for Spiked and the author of the bracing new book, After the Pogrom: 7 October, Israel and the Crisis of Civilisation. O'Neill and Reason's Nick Gillespie talk about the response in the United Kingdom and the United States to Hamas' attacks last year, Israel's ongoing military actions, and what's likely to come next in a postwoke world. "On October 7," says O'Neill, "the progressive left went from 'believe women' to 'believe fascists.' They took Hamas at its word over the testimonies of raped women." They also discuss whether O'Neill's politics have changed over the years. At the start of his career a quarter-century ago, he was an unapologetic man of the left—a self-declared Trotskyist, in fact. But these days he seems to make more common cause with conservatives and libertarians. "My rallying cry remains the same," O'Neill insists. "Increase the power of man over nature and decrease the power of man over man." Reason's annual Webathon is underway. Please considering donating here: https://reason.pub/41c14XS. #israel #hamas #podcast #interview