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Yaron Brook is an objectivist. Yoram Hazony is a national conservative. This is a conversation and debate about national conservatism vs individualism. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: Noom: https://trynoom.com/lex InsideTracker: https://insidetracker.com/lex and use code Lex25 to get 25% off SimpliSafe: https://simplisafe.com/lex and use code LEX to get a free security camera ExpressVPN: https://expressvpn.com/lexpod and use code LexPod to get 3 months free Blinkist: https://blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium EPISODE LINKS: Yaron's Twitter: / yaronbrook Yaron's YouTube: / ybrook Yoram's Twitter: / yhazony Yoram's Website: https://www.yoramhazony.org/ Yaron Brook's Books: In Pursuit of Wealth: https://amzn.to/3qmXuGo Equal Is Unfair: https://amzn.to/3FopKOV Yoram Hazony's Books: Conservatism: https://amzn.to/3sv0Nhe The Virtue of Nationalism: https://amzn.to/3mtxqs6 PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ Full episodes playlist: • Lex Fridman Podcast Clips playlist: • Lex Fridman Podcast Clips OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 2:37 - Conservatism 8:32 - Importance of history 20:35 - Rationalism vs empiricism 26:05 - Communism 34:08 - Otto von Bismarck 38:30 - Edmund Burke and the French Revolution 43:17 - USA's founding fathers 56:12 - Founding documents 1:18:01 - Cohesion and Individualism 1:38:54 - Love and relationships 1:47:06 - Individual freedom 2:01:34 - Having children 2:15:19 - Reason vs emotions 2:22:09 - Nationalism 2:34:22 - Finding love 2:46:09 - Hope for the future 2:51:33 - Meaning of life SOCIAL: Twitter: / lexfridman LinkedIn: / lexfridman Facebook: / lexfridman Instagram: / lexfridman Medium: / lexfridman Reddit: / lexfridman Support on Patreon: / lexfridman