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Master Su Dong Chen discusses application of a basic movement. A student asks, basically, "can you use it just like you practice it?" Master Su explains that when we practice we are at the center of the movement; when we apply, there is an opponent, and the opponent becomes the center. Necessarily, the application looks different from the single-person practice form. Master Su demonstrates initially using a simple centrifugal spiral, and then uses examples from Ba-Gua stepping. At the end Master Su discusses dealing with the jab. I apologize for my errors in interpreting. However, I believe that this section of the video is still reasonably instructive. This video clip from a seminar filmed in 2000 at the Herndon/Sterling branch of White Birch K'ung-Fu in Northern Virginia. Thank you Si Fu Sean Kans for your hospitality. More to come, including clips from the October 2010 Miami seminars hosted by Natural Motion Systems.