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After quietly absorbing verbal abuse from Gayton McKenzie during a torrid first morning at BNC#5, DA Federal Chair Helen Zille had her opportunity to respond during the Nightcap session. In this, Part 1 of that discussion with BizNews founder Alec Hogg, Zille exacts her revenge. Brilliantly. We witness a master of her craft at her very best, displaying trademark courage, superb storytelling skills and political nous. Zille also shared the back story of what is happening within SA's newfound political coalitions; and unpacked the DA's way ahead as the country approaches the watershed 2024 National Elections. Compelling, captivating and enlightening. A must-listen. TIMESTAMPS. 00:00 Introduction 01:24 Helen Zille's response to Gayton McKenzie's BNC#5 presentation 05:25 On Gayton McKenzie and Herman Mashaba's refusal to enter into a coalition with the DA if Zille is involved 09:22 On McKenzie's constituency 10:35 On who is keeping the ANC in power 17:30 On Herman Mashaba's politics 20:57 On being the lightning rod 21:27 On SA's coalition politics and the best and worst-case scenarios for the 2024 National Elections 33:09 Why the DA's template of successful governance has not been picked up by the majority of South Africans 34:33 The major failing of liberals 35:53 The importance of good governance and examples of the DA getting it right 39:59 Cape Town as a tangible product of the DA's successful governance 40:43 Whether South Africa is at a tipping point which could potentially see dramatic change in 2024