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What’s the difference between AI literacy and AI fluency — and why does it matter for leaders right now? Recorded live at MIT during the AI Powered Women Conference, this episode of AI: Voice or Victim breaks down why understanding AI tools is no longer enough. Erica Rooney and Greg Boone are joined by Elena Alikhachkina, a global technology and data leader with over 25 years of experience across companies like Dow Jones and Johnson & Johnson. Together, they explore how AI has been influencing decisions in hiring, healthcare, finance, and content personalization for years — long before ChatGPT entered the spotlight. The real risk today isn’t AI itself, but passive leadership that fails to question, guide, or challenge automated systems. This conversation is designed for executives, HR leaders, founders, and non-technical decision-makers who need practical clarity on AI without hype or jargon. In this episode, you’ll learn: The key difference between AI literacy and true AI fluency Why AI fluency is a leadership and behavioral skill, not a technical one How AI already impacts hiring, recruiting, healthcare, and financial decisions Where leaders unknowingly become “victims” of AI systems Why curiosity, critical thinking, and asking better questions are future-proof skills What it means to manage both human employees and AI-driven systems If you’re responsible for people, strategy, or organizational decisions, this episode will help you move from reacting to AI — to shaping it with intention. Chapters 00:00 Welcome to AI: Voice or Victim 01:05 Live at MIT: AI-Powered Women Conference 02:10 Meet Elena Alikhachkina 03:40 AI Literacy vs AI Fluency 06:15 AI Before ChatGPT 08:40 AI in Hiring and Recruiting 11:10 When Leaders Become the Victim 13:55 The Three AI Opportunity Zones 17:45 Why Digital Transformations Fail 20:30 Leadership Mindset in the AI Era 24:10 Managing Digital Employees 27:45 Trust, Bias, and Overconfidence 31:10 Curiosity as a Leadership Skill 34:20 Teaching Better Questions 38:00 Human-to-AI Trust 41:15 The Future of AI Leadership 44:10 Elena’s AI Fluency Framework 47:30 Choose Your Role: Voice or Victim 49:00 Closing Thoughts 👉 Don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with someone navigating the AI revolution. Subscribe to AI: Voice or Victim for more conversations that move you from AI anxious to AI curious. Hosted by Erica Rooney and Greg Boone aka AISerious™, we help people and organizations embrace AI ethically, strategically, and with humanity at the center. Follow us and join the movement to shape the future — before it shapes us. 🔗 Follow us and dive deeper: On the web: https://voiceorvictim.com/Greg Boone on LinkedIn: / gregboone Erica Rooney on LinkedIn: / © 2025 Walk West Production