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This is the fifth part of the latest UltraTech webcast where we talk about stormwater products. In this episode, members of our sales team answer the question, "What are some common misconceptions or objections with stormwater products?" Transcript: CARY: Yeah. So a couple things here. One is they're not gonna solve my problem. They're not going to be hearty enough, sturdy enough to, you know, hold the debris to, you know, filter the heavy metals. And I can just tell you from personal experience, there's very few cases that we just can't solve a problem. And we even have. You know, we've had certain scenarios, let's say, at an industrial site. Let's say they've got like 2000 parts per million of of some kind of heavy metal. They're trying to reduce and we know one pass through our filter could reduce 40% of that. So now they're at, let's say, 1200. But they need to get down to, you know, 200 or 300. Just throwing numbers out there. We could follow that line back. It's called a train of treatment and we can help show them, OK. Well, how about we put some socks in your parking lot to catch the sheet flow and filter that before it gets to the basin. Or how about we put a bunch of filtration media in front of your downspout? So you've got an additional layer filtration. So by the time we follow it all the way down to the basin, we could get you down below the the benchmarks they call them. DAVID: Just to add on to what Cary said, yeah, I mean the, treatment train is huge. I mean, you know, we make it clear to people, this is the last line of defense. It's not going to solve all your your site problems or your facility problems and you know if it's a massive job site or you know with slopes on both sides of a highway, you're not going to solve all the problems by putting a catch basin filter at the end, it's when all that other stuff fails. It's going to protect and it still will protect because stuff gets through there so. The total site approach is definitely a thing and and we're all, you know, really aware of that. And a lot of our products complement that and and keep that stuff out of the drains before it ever gets to it, so. CARY: So here's a couple more things, Mario, if I if I'm gonna pinpoint products, here are some common misconceptions. So first of all, if you look at our just basic fabric filter, our Drain Guard people say we're gonna cause flooding, right? It doesn't have enough flow rate and it'll get backed up etc. Well, first of all, the SOP is to make sure it doesn't get filled up to the brim with debris and sediment and get all clogged. And Dave, I forgot what the rule is maybe check it every 30 days, or maybe their permit has a specific increment to look at that filter and clean it out to, you know, to comply with the permit. So that's one thing. Well, we know that if you keep that thing updated. And it's, you know, the the bag is in place. We have most of products have overflow ports built in, so even if you have a crazy rain event, the whole theory of this thing is the water gets into the bag or the filter. And then all this debris and sediment kind of settles down to the bottom of the bag portion. Well, then, even if that water flows up and spills out of the overflow ports, it's not bringing that debris and sediment with it 'cause that debris and sediment is settled, and so you rarely will get flooding unless you really just don't maintain it adequately. So another thing to be aware of is industrial facilities. They typically have to have a stormwater permit to release their stormwater for the state, Department of Ecology, etc. Well, if they can prove that they don't actually have a way of polluting that stormwater, they can get what's called a no exposure clause. And so what that means is if they've got no forklifts or heavy equipment. Running around their parking lot, let's just say, you know, they're a distribution facility, but they've got, you know, 6 barrels of drums and you know a couple totes of some cleaners or solvents. They've got to keep. They just don't have room for it inside. They've got to put it outside, so it actually kind of trickles into our other line of products. You know it's not quote, unquote "stormwater products", but it really does have a big impact on stormwater facility. So those drums or those totes that they're storing outside? If they put him in what's called our outdoor storage sheds, we call them a Hard Top, Hard Top, Hard Top Plus, where they actually can store those drums, and they can store those totes in our fully enclosed spill containment systems.They can show their local municipality that they have no way to release any pollutants or contaminants and actually not have to keep up with their annual storm water permit. So that's a pretty cool way to save customers time and money.