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In this episode of On the SAIR, host Peter L speaks with Nobel Prize–winning physicist Barry Barish about the discovery of gravitational waves, the importance of precision science, and how artificial intelligence may shape the future of research. Barish reflects on his journey from particle physics to leading the LIGO experiment, which opened a new window into the universe. He explains how decades of engineering, experimentation, and technological innovation made the detection of gravitational waves possible—and why precision instruments are at the heart of major scientific breakthroughs. The conversation also explores the role of AI in scientific discovery, the gap between academic research and industry development, and why initiatives like the Foundation for Science & AI Research (SAIR) are needed to guide the future of AI in science. In this conversation: • The story behind the discovery of gravitational waves • Why precision instruments drive scientific breakthroughs • How quantum effects appear in large-scale experiments • The role of AI in physics, chemistry, and biology • Why universities must help guide the future of AI