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Dr. Michael Levin is a Distinguished Professor in the Biology department at Tufts, where he holds the Vannevar Bush endowed Chair and serves as director of the Allen Discovery Center and the Tufts Center for Regenerative and Developmental Biology. He holds a dual B.S. degrees, in CS and in Biology, and a PhD from Harvard University. In this conversation, Levin talks to us about the usefulness of his conception of intelligence and the irrational "teleophobia" that dominates the discipline of biology today. Levin's work on limb regeneration is a clarion call for all scientists to rethink the nature of time, cause, and agency. Levin's website with access to all relevant resources: www.DrMichaelLevin.org. Levin's TED interview: • Michael Levin: The electrical blueprints t... Timeline: 00:00 -- Pre-Interview / String theory / Teleophobia 04:23 -- Introduction to Levin 08:06 -- Levin's conception of intelligence 10:40 -- How pronouncements about IQ measure IQ 12:07 -- Levin's definition of intelligence 13:00 -- Multi-scale competency and agency 15:00 -- Goals and fear of goals in biology (Teleophobia) 18:45 -- Levin characterizes the current climate in biology 21:00 -- Levin's work is not philosophical 23:12 -- The principle of least action in biology 25:10 -- Reformulating physics from a biological perspective 26:40 -- How intelligence scales up from physics 32:07 -- Agents and plotting the size of goals 35:30 -- Aharanov's Two-Time Interpretation of physics 36:40 -- Organic stress and the quest for "optimal" set points 39:50 -- Existential risks for humanity 41:26 -- Levin's thoughts about artificial intelligence 47:08 -- The implications of Levin's work for freedom and society 51:12 -- Freedom and human polarization 53:20 -- Biolectricity, math, and Coulomb's law 54:39 -- Levin on competitive cooperation in biology 57:47 -- Levin's current activity and companies