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Bernad Ramanantsoa, Dean of HEC Paris 1. What is your reaction to HEC being included in the Shanghai ranking? The fact that HEC has this year made it into the Shanghai ranking is a source of great satisfaction, firstly because, as you can imagine, it is a nice feeling and secondly because it represents recognition of the efforts that we have been making for several years. For 5 to 10 years now we have been investing massively in research by recruiting research professors and giving them the means to publish. So yes, it is satisfying. And we have to consider what this result means -- I think it will help us forge even stronger working relationships on research projects with the best institutions in the world. We have already entered into agreements with MIT, for example, and with Tsinghua in China. That allows us to work more, to work better and, of course, to continue attracting the leading researchers in the world to HEC. 2. Do you think business schools need to work more closely with universities in order to become more competitive at the international level? I think that what will determine whether institutions are successful or not today is their ability to work across multiple disciplines. For many years now we have been entering into additive alliances in which we work together -- that was the case, for example, when HEC teamed up with some of the world's leading business schools -- from Europe, the United States and Tsinghua in China. I believe we are now going into a new phase in which the most important thing is to forge what experts call additive alliances, which means working with institutions that have other skills, in other disciplines. I think that is the sense in which we should talk about universities and grandes écoles working more closely -- and, of course, it must be a win-win relationship, i.e. a genuinely fruitful relationship between the two types of institutions. 3. What is the significance of Paris Saclay University to HEC? I think that to examine Paris Saclay, we have to look at it in terms of international competition. France needs world champions and we need world champions, both to attract the best students from all over the world -- and we have a lot to offer in that regard -- and to attract the best research professors -- and we have assets with which to do that too. Paris Saclay can become a major asset in French policy but it must be seen in terms of competitiveness. HEC, which already has significant assets and a worldwide renown as a business school, is fortunate to have Paris Saclay just as Paris Saclay is fortunate to have HEC. I think that is the way to look at the Paris Saclay operation.