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Rob Ellis lived a double life for decades—hustling, using, surviving. To the outside world, he was successful. To his family, he was slipping away. In this raw, unflinching conversation, Rob sits down with Zac and Jay to talk about a 30-year addiction that nearly took everything—and the moment it all changed. He opens up about fatherhood, shame, forgiveness, and how his son, Grant Ellis—this season’s lead on The Bachelor—chose to tell the truth about his dad’s past on national television. What follows is a story of pain and pride, brokenness and repair, and the enduring power of love between a father and son. Rob’s recovery isn’t just survival—it’s purpose. And this conversation is a reminder that while addiction can tear a family apart, love is the antidote—it can burn through the chaos and bring everyone back to the light. Connect with Zac / zwclark / zac-c-746b96254 / zacwclark / strava / zacwclark If you or anyone you know is struggling, please do not hesitate to contact Release: (914) 588-6564 releaserecovery.com @releaserecovery