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In today’s episode of the Atheist Experience, Justin is joined by Allegedly Ian and Dr. Blitz to form an unapologetic trinity! The hosts deconstruct the Kalam argument and dismantle creationist numerology. Can ancient characterizations of a deity survive a rigorous cross-examination of modern physics and modal logic? Let the scientific debunking begin! Harvey in Canada defends the Kalam argument. Dr. Blitz counters the first premise using quantum tunneling as a cause-free event. They debate if a timeless mind can make decisions. Does God change when willing time? Does causality apply to quantum events? Howard argues for creation using cymatics and numerology. The hosts dismantle his sonoluminescence claims, noting it lacks nuclear fusion. They mock his "rabbit" theory as satirical. Can Fibonacci sequences prove a divine creator? Why would God use a decoder ring to reveal himself? John in MA argues for fine-tuning. The hosts question why a bodiless mind needs specific physical constants. They also address the symmetry breaker in modal logic. Is a necessary being's existence more plausible than its absence? Can modal logic prove a deity? Ben describes logic as a human tool. Ian argues logic is necessary for intentional thoughts to pick out specific objects. They discuss fuzzy logic and super tasks. If logic is linguistic, can it provide a supernatural foundation? Are logical tools just invented for reasoning? Thank you for joining us this week! We will see you next time! 00:00:00 Intro 00:05:15 Harvey-(CA) | Attempted Logic Structure Of The Kalam 00:46:03 Howard-(ES) | Creationist Model Faulty Evidence 01:18:40 Jon-MA | Time Not Required For Fine Tuned Universe 01:39:37 Ben-CA | Using Logic As A Tool To Help Reason Believe in God? Call the show on Sundays 4:30pm-6:00pm CT: 1-512-991-9242 or use your computer 💻 http://tiny.cc/callaxp and tell us what you believe and why! We request pronouns as part of the call screening process on our shows, and we display the pronouns our callers provide. If you see a caller with no pronouns indicated, this is because they chose not to provide us with any, and we respect that decision. ► Don't like commercials? Become a patron for ad-free content & more: / theatheistexperience ► Podcast versions of the show may be found at: https://www.spreaker.com/show/theathe... ► Atheist Experience merch can be found at: http://bit.ly/aenmerch ► Become a YouTube member: / @theatheistexperience ► Join the ACA Fan Discord: https://tiny.cc/acadiscord VISIT THE ACA'S OFFICIAL WEB SITE http://www.atheist-community.org (The Atheist Community of Austin) TheAtheistExperience is the official channel of The Atheist Experience. "The Atheist Experience" is a trademark of the ACA. The views and opinions expressed by hosts, guests, or callers are their own and not necessarily representative of the Atheist Community of Austin. Opening Theme: Shelley Segal "Saved" http://www.shelleysegal.com/ Limited use license by Shelley Segal Copyright © 2011 Shelley Segal Copyright © 1997-2025 Atheist Community of Austin. All rights reserved.