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In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Sikandar Nawaz and Moiz Nawaz - two multi-talented brothers who’ve carved their own creative paths in Pakistan’s evolving entertainment industry. From Bhatti Gate to the big screen, the Nawaz brothers share an honest, heartfelt conversation about their journey, from madrassah life and acting struggles to music, content creation, and the pressures of public life. We explore: Sikandar’s childhood and madrassah experiences Moiz’s transition from music to television Why criticism from relatives can either break or build your confidence The harsh truth about drama industry payments and structures How they learned acting without formal training and found their breakthrough Why ego and lack of collaboration hold back Pakistan’s creator economy Their take on Pakistan in 2050 and what real success looks like A deep, emotional, and often humorous dive into what it means to stay authentic in the face of fame, expectations, and constant change. 🔔 Subscribe and turn on notifications to never miss an episode. #thoughtbehindthings #sikandar #moiz #muzamilhasan #contentcreator Socials: TBT’s Instagram: / thoughtbehindthings TBT’s TikTok: / tbtbymuzamil TBT’s Facebook: / thoughtbehindthings TBT Clips: / @tbtpodcastclips Muzamil's Instagram: / muzamilhasan Muzamil's LinkedIn: / muzamilhasan Sikandar's Instagram: / sikandarnawazz Moiz's Instagram: / moizzz_nawazzz Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space. You can find out more about them at: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/ Listen on: Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3z1cE7F Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3cgIkf Google Podcasts: / @tbtgo Credits: Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan Zaidi Associate Producer: Saad Shehryar Publisher: Talha Shaikh Editor: Jawad Sajid Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro 2:16 - Sikandar’s Childhood & Bhatti Gate 7:38 - Madrassah Life & Guitar While Doing Hifz 11:57 -12-Year Gap Between Moiz & Sikandar 14:21 - Moiz’s Childhood & Early Interests 18:53 - Muzamil on Higher Education 24:44 - Moiz’s Musical Journey 26:07 - Parent’s Role in Their Evolution 28:49 - Handling Criticism From Relatives 31:16 - Confidence To Do Something Different 35:56 - Tamasha” & Ranbir Kapoor’s Influence 40:18 - Drama Industry Payments & Structure 44:01 - Learning Acting Without Formal Training 50:04 - Moiz’s Breakthrough in TV Dramas 51:39 - Collaborations & Experimenting With Content 1:02:15 - Writing a Good Script in Pakistan 1:07:19 - Real Cost of Drama Production 1:12:07 - OTT Players With Big Potential in Pakistan 1:14:18 - Brand Building vs Viral Chasing 1:20:08 - Muzamil’s Podcast Journey & Growth Cycles 1:24:38 - Creators Cling to What Worked 1:28:55 - Ego & Lack of Collaboration in the Creator Scene 1:37:55 - What Will Pakistan Look Like in 2050? 1:42:16 - Did They Ever Imagine This Success? 1:46:34 - Final Thoughts