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ActionSA leader Herman Mashaba sits down with Alec Hogg in an unflinching interview about political ambition, betrayal, and the battle for South Africa’s biggest city. Fresh off a surprise by-election win, Mashaba fires back at Helen Zille’s claim that his “veneer is fading,” accuses the DA of trying to erase his legacy, and outlines how he plans to reclaim Johannesburg by building a people-first coalition. “They can call me whatever they want,” he says, “but I’ve got unfinished business — and it’s called fixing this city.” Timestamps 00:00 – Alec introduces Herman Mashaba 00:15 – ActionSA’s first by-election win explained 01:00 – “We beat the ANC by two votes” 02:30 – Why the result proves every vote counts 03:10 – Mashaba outlines ActionSA’s new focused strategy 04:00 – Admits contesting all nine provinces was a mistake 05:20 – The plan for 30 to 40 key municipalities 06:30 – “We’re only contesting where no one can govern without us” 07:15 – Praise for Dr Nasiphi Moya and Thulani Khumalo 08:10 – Why Mashaba sees community activists as future mayors 09:40 – “We’re building real leaders, not politicians” 10:30 – New by-election plans and momentum for 2026 11:30 – Alec asks about Helen Zille and Johannesburg 12:00 – “We’re still deciding on our Jo’burg mayoral candidate” 13:20 – Mashaba on leadership, age, and unfinished business 14:00 – “No one knows this city better than I do” 15:00 – On corruption: “I fired 600 officials in three years” 16:10 – “What happened to the R35 billion fraud cases?” 17:40 – How “dark forces” pushed him out of office 18:30 – The 154 expropriated buildings that stalled after he left 19:40 – “We were ready to create 22,000 jobs” 20:00 – Zille vs Mashaba: the political tension builds 21:10 – “No one will govern Johannesburg without us” 22:10 – Mashaba on coalitions and political abuse 23:40 – His fallout with Helen Zille and the DA 25:00 – “She sees me as a boy — not as a man” 26:00 – Mashaba rejects claims of EFF corruption ties 27:20 – “The DA fought me for firing corrupt MMCs” 29:00 – On racial bias and political hypocrisy 30:00 – Breaking ties with the ANC in Johannesburg 31:00 – Alec asks if he’ll run for mayor again 31:40 – “I’ll return only if I can’t find the right person” 32:20 – “If I come back, I’ll be brutal” 33:00 – “I know who’s dirty — and I’m ready” 34:00 – Alec compares him to Donald Trump 34:30 – “I’m not fighting for myself — I’m fighting for the city” Video production by Asime Nyide Support South Africa’s bastion of independent journalism, offering balanced insights on investments, business, and the political economy, by joining BizNews Premium. Register here - https://bit.ly/4ifcIWO Your early morning brew of the BizNews Insider keeps you up to speed with the content that matters. The newsletter will land in your inbox at 5:30am weekdays. Register here - https://bit.ly/3is4b7l Join this channel to get access to perks: / @biznewstv