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How were Indigenous and First Nation's people able to survive on earth for so long in a sustainable way? How can we all learn to think 7 generations ahead, and learn other ways to view the world through a new lens? In today's riveting conversation, Jez is joined by Vanessa Roanhorse. Vanessa Roanhorse (Navajo) is founder and CEO of Roanhorse Consulting & Co-Founder at Native Women Lead, based in Tiwa Territory/Albuquerque, New Mexico, as well as being the author of the article: Radical Economics: Centering Indigenous Knowledge, Restoring the Circle. Jez chats to Vanessa about the intersection of Indigenous knowledge and modern economics. They explore the importance of Indigenous worldviews, the role of feminine energy in leadership, and how these perspectives can reshape our understanding of capital flow and sustainability. Vanessa emphasizes the need to reimagine our economic systems to prioritize relationships and community over individual gain, highlighting the wisdom embedded in Indigenous practices that have sustained biodiversity for generations. In this talk, Vanessa Roanhorse discusses the complex relationship between wealth, trauma, and community, emphasizing the need for a shift in how we perceive and measure wealth. She advocates for multi-generational thinking and intentionality in resource allocation, urging society to consider the impact of their actions on future generations. Roanhorse also explores the concept of reframing economics to focus on sustainability and the cyclical nature of resources, while critiquing the current capitalist framework that prioritizes growth at any cost. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Magical Learning Podcast 01:02 Meet Vanessa Roanhorse 02:07 Exploring Indigenous Worldviews 04:54 The Importance of Indigenous Knowledge 07:57 Reimagining Capital Flow 10:03 The Seven Principles of Indigenous Worldviews 12:00 Wealth Beyond Capitalism 12:20 The Trauma of Wealth and Capital 14:21 Multi-Generational Thinking and Intentionality 16:43 Reframing Economics for Sustainability 20:07 Imagining a Future Without Billionaires Read the article Radical Economics: Centering Indigenous Knowledge, Restoring the Circle: https://nonprofitquarterly.org/radica... And to find out more about Vanessa: https://roanhorseconsulting.com/ / roanhorseconsultingllc / roanhorse-consulting All Magical Learning podcasts are recorded on the beautiful lands of the Kulin, Ngunnawal and Wiradjuri nations, and we pay our respect to their elders past and present. As always, if you are having trouble, you can always send us a message. Listen to/watch this podcast here: https://open.spotify.com/show/128QgGO.... To find out more about our free content, sign-up for future webinars as well as our other services, go to https://magicallearning.com/ and sign up! You can also find us on our socials: Instagram: / magical_learning Facebook: / magicallearningteam Linkedin: / magicallearning Youtube: / @magicallearning Have a Magical week!