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Building a Modern Cloud Platform (with Anurag Goel)

How would you build a Heroku-like platform from scratch? This week we're diving deep into the world of cloud platforms and infrastructure with Anurag Goel, founder and CEO of Render. Starting from the seemingly simple task of hosting a web service, we quickly discover why building a production-ready platform is far more complex than it appears. Why is hosting a Postgres database so challenging? How do you handle millions of users asking for thousands of different features? And what's the secret to building infrastructure that developers actually want to use? We explore the technical challenges of building enterprise-grade services—from implementing reliable backups and high availability to managing private networking and service discovery. Anurag shares insights on choosing between infrastructure-as-code versus configuration, why they built on Go, and how they handle 100 billion requests per month. Plus, we discuss the impact of AI on platform adoption: Are LLMs already influencing which platforms developers choose? Will hosting platforms need to actively support agentic workflows? And what does the future hold for automated debugging? Whether you're curious about building your own platform, want to understand what really happens behind your cloud provider's dashboard, or just enjoy hearing war stories from the infrastructure trenches, this episode has something for you. – Support Developer Voices on Patreon:   / developervoices   Support Developer Voices on YouTube:    / @developervoices   Render: https://render.com/ Render’s MCP Server (Early Access): https://render.com/docs/mcp-server Pulumi: https://www.pulumi.com/ Victoria Metrics: https://victoriametrics.com Loki: https://vector.dev/docs/reference/con... Vector: https://vector.dev/ Kris on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/krisajenkins... Kris on Mastodon: http://mastodon.social/@krisajenkins Kris on LinkedIn:   / krisjenkins   -- 0:00 Intro 4:16 What is Render? 7:38 Building a Postgres Service Is Hard 13:20 How Do You Decide Which Features To Prioritize? 17:45 Defining Infrastructure In Code vs. Configuration 30:43 Feelings About Terraform 33:06 Dealing With The Myriad Demands Of The Userbase 39:05 How Do You Manage The User Interface? 42:13 How Do You Handle Internal Asynchronous Messaging? 50:59 Was Go The Right Choice For Building Render? 58:10 How Do You Handle Observability? 1:03:07 Is Billing A Separate Logging Concern? 1:04:10 How Are They Acquiring +150,000 Users A Month? 1:07:42 Are You Trying To Influence LLMs To Pick Your Platform? 1:10:59 Are AI Companies Going To Enter Into Pay-To-Play for SaaS Companies? 1:13:37 Will Platforms Need To Actively Support LLM Users? 1:19:10 What's The Future Of Agentic Debugging? 1:22:55 Outro

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