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This conversation isn’t about getting another spiritual insight. It’s about what remains after the insights have already happened. Together with Ikraam, I explore what integration really looks like once awakening has occurred, not as a concept, but as lived experience. We talk about: – why spiritual seeking can subtly become a form of avoidance – how awakening doesn’t destroy the ego, but often refines it – why integration happens in relationships, work, and the body – the difference between understanding, feeling, and actually living – how the human layer isn’t something to transcend, but something to include We speak openly about plant medicine, non-duality, trauma, embodiment, reactivity, and the limits of mental models, without trying to turn it into a method or a conclusion. This is not a quick explanation or a step-by-step guide. It’s a slower, deeper conversation for people who have already seen something and are now navigating what comes after. If you’re in an integration phase, or notice a gap between insight and daily life, this conversation may resonate. 📘 Free guide: Stabilizing Awakening 👉🏻 https://fromdoingtobeing.org/stabiliz... 📞 Free clarity call 👉🏻 https://calendly.com/keesblok/gratis-... Feel free to share a reflection or question in the comments. Much love, Kees ---------------- 00:00 – Spiritual seeking as avoidance 00:56 – Introduction: Integration after awakening 01:52 – Early spirituality and questioning God 04:02 – What is prior to thought? 05:41 – Personal awareness vs impersonal energy 08:05 – What integration really means 10:03 – Loosening identity and mental models 12:36 – Moving from mind to body 14:15 – Goals after awakening 17:40 – The plant medicine awakening 20:20 – Spiritual ego vs surrender 23:31 – Disorientation after ego death 25:58 – The obsession with spiritual knowledge 27:43 – Why trauma work becomes essential 29:47 – Seeking as avoidance explained 31:40 – When seeking exhausts itself 33:14 – The mind can’t “complete” awakening 34:55 – Energy, emotion and thought 36:03 – Reactivity and resistance in relationships 39:06 – The body’s role in boundaries 41:18 – Sensitivity and energetic overwhelm 43:56 – Why behavioral change doesn’t work 45:45 – Nonduality doesn’t make you happy 47:49 – Allowing happiness after awakening 49:04 – Deconstruction vs being human 50:07 – Being human is enough 52:42 – No need to do anything… yet you still move ------------------ I'm a Certified Coach, Coaching People in Amsterdam and Remotely to Reduce Stress and Improve Flow through Spirituality, Mindfulness, Psychology and Coaching. I'm not a counselor, therapist, teacher, doctor, or any kind of authority. Ideas expressed should not be treated as a substitute for medical advice or professional help. If expert assistance or counseling is needed, seek the services of a competent professional. There are many good teachers out there, and if you resonate with the teachings of Eckhart Tolle, Angelo Dilulo, Josh Putnam, Osho, Mooji, Jim Newman, Rupert Spira or Sadhguru you might like my videos.