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In this episode of Chefs Without Restaurants, host Chris Spear chats with Steve Sando, the founder of Rancho Gordo, about his unlikely journey into the world of heirloom beans. From working in music and web design to launching a business centered around preserving rare bean varieties, Steve’s path is a testament to following your passion, even later in life. They discuss everything from the entrepreneurial challenges Steve faced to practical tips for cooking beans — including whether or not soaking beans is necessary and the joys of cooking in clay pots. The conversation also covers the Rancho Gordo Bean Club, which has grown to a waitlist of 30,000 people, and Steve’s upcoming release, The Bean Book. Whether you're a home cook looking to elevate your bean game or a food entrepreneur, this episode is full of insights on culinary preservation and the power of niche markets. Key topics: The origins of Rancho Gordo Tips for cooking beans (soaking vs. non-soaking, pressure cookers, clay pots) The future of heirloom beans Steve’s upcoming book The Bean Book How to join the Rancho Gordo Bean Club STEVE SANDO & RANCHO GORDO Rancho Gordo Website (https://www.ranchogordo.com/) Racho Gordo Instagram ( / rancho_gordo ) and Threads (https://www.threads.net/@rancho_gordo) Order The Bean Book (https://amzn.to/4d0dWmG) The Cooking with Clay Facebook Group ( / cookingwithclay ) CHEFS WITHOUT RESTAURANTS If you enjoy the show and would like to support it financially, please check out our Sponsorship page (https://chefswithoutrestaurants.com/s...) (we get a commission when you use our links). Get the Chefs Without Restaurants Newsletter (https://mailchi.mp/fe0d8a0cc7a6/chefs...) Chefs Without Restaurants Instagram ( / chefswithoutrestaurants ) , Threads (https://www.threads.net/@chefswithout...) , TikTok ( / chefswithoutrestaurants ) and YouTube ( / @chefswithoutrestaurants ) The Chefs Without Restaurants Private Facebook Group (https://urlgeni.us/facebook/GWRgroup) Chris Spear's personal chef business Perfect Little Bites (https://perfectlittlebites.com/) Support the show (https://www.buzzsprout.com/725607/sup...)