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In this episode, Mac and The Rev dive into a deeply personal and contentious topic—how faith intersects with immigration, with a specific focus on the United States. They acknowledge their own biases and encourage listeners to do the same while discussing Christian principles and their application to current immigration laws and practices. The episode explores the tension between social justice and religious doctrines, scrutinizing how Christianity and other faiths address these issues. The conversation covers biblical interpretations, the role of government, and the moral implications of current immigration policies. They call for compassion, love, and a balanced approach that honors both justice and humanity. 00:00 Introduction and Personal Biases 00:40 Faith and Immigration in the US 01:58 Christianity's Role in Social Justice 04:37 Questioning Religious and Governmental Authority 09:23 Balancing Compassion and Justice 11:58 Immigration Policies and Public Perception 18:36 The Immigration Dilemma 19:10 Spirituality and Compassion 20:18 Mutual Accountability and Grieving 21:57 Balancing Fear and Truth 22:47 Interpreting Religious Texts 25:11 The Role of Authority in Religion 26:17 Consequences vs. Justice 28:41 Old Testament vs. New Testament 35:02 Final Thoughts on Love and Justice