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What is it actually like to build and submit a ChatGPT app today? In this episode, we talk with Aaron from Tedix, who has been experimenting deeply with MCP apps, the Apps SDK, and agent-driven development. Aaron shares insights from building a commerce ChatGPT app powered by Klarna, the challenges of working with early developer tooling, and his real experience submitting apps to the ChatGPT App Store. We also explore where MCP apps may be heading, including generative UI, composability, and the idea of agents that can build and manage apps themselves. Learn more about Tedix: https://tedix.dev/ Connect with Aaron: / aaron-koivunen In this conversation we discuss: • Building MCP and ChatGPT apps with the Apps SDK • Lessons from early builders in the ecosystem • The current ChatGPT App Store submission process • Challenges developers face today • Generative UI and the future of app interfaces • Why MCP could become the accessibility layer for AI agents A deep conversation about the evolving MCP ecosystem and what builders are learning right now. ⸻ Chapters 00:00 Intro 02:00 Building a Commerce ChatGPT App with Klarna 04:30 Challenges with the Apps SDK 06:30 Lessons from Early MCP Builders 08:30 Submitting a ChatGPT App 16:00 Agents That Build MCP Apps 21:00 What Makes a Good MCP App 27:00 Generative UI and Future Interfaces 32:00 Identity, Wallets and Agents 36:00 The Future of MCP Apps