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The book "The Uncomfortable Past" by scholar Nikolai Epple has become a wartime bestseller. In February 2022, people turned to Epple's book to find answers to the darkest questions: How could this happen to us? Where is the point of no return? Can we change anything? And, looking ahead — can we do anything to ensure "never again" really means never again? The interview with Nikolai Epple is a complex conversation that demands certain efforts from the viewer or listener. But this conversation is very important. Both in the context of today, in understanding the past, and in preparing for the future. #скажигордеевой #неудобноепрошлое Contents: 0:00 Epple's book became a bestseller after Feb. 24. Why? 2:56 “Beauty with a bloody filling” - why we came to North River Station 7:31 An ad about how to reprogram your life 10:26 “You're writing a book about laboratory research on the plague and suddenly there's a plague epidemic.” 12:04 “There were claims made against Jews in Germany that they went into concentration camps without trying to resist.” 14:18 What is post-memory and why has it become so important now? 17:50 “It is impossible to simply forget mass violence against its citizens” 20:56 “There are more dictatorships than democracies in the world.” 23:43 How memory is occupied by the state and what this has to do with today 27:47 “There's a lot of ‘we can do it again’ in the air after February 24” 28:44 “What Russian troops are doing in Ukraine is not a surprise.” 34:48 How do you test reality for normality? 38:05 “In the 90s, we didn't have a public conversation about what was good and what was bad.” 41:48 “State terror is a crime, not a justified sacrifice.” 43:25 “Whoever is doing something terrible is some other person, it's not me.” 47:05 “In a war situation, moral inhibitions are turned off.” 49:46 “When everyone is to blame, no one is to blame” - about collective guilt. 55:46 “The word war explains too clearly what's going on, that's why we have banned the word war.” 58:55 “The reflexes of Stalin's past continue to operate in Russia.” 1:02:23 “Is that golden star from the Spasskaya Tower really the same golden star above the river station? 1:03:48 “The critical skill of looking at oneself is the best way to avoid repeating the crimes committed.” 1:09:14 “Violence must end, society must feel safe” - how to accept the evil that the state has created 1:13:02 How many years will it take to recognize what is happening in Ukraine? 1:16:54 “Repentance cannot be collective” 1:21:00 “Fear paralyzes.” 1:24:14 “The state does not have the skill to answer for its crimes. Then why not do it again?” 1:26:04 “I consider this country my own and I wouldn't want to give it to them” - why Epple is staying in Russia 1:27:24 “A year from now we will meet in a world where there is no war.” Nikolai Epple / / nikolay.epplee Katerina Gordeeva / / catherinagordeeva Telegram: https://t.me/skazhigordeevoy Instagram: / / skazhigordeevoy TikTok: / / skazhigordeevoy VKontakte: https://vk.com/skazhigordeevoy