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In this episode of the podcast Matty Govs and Danielle Turton sit down with Holly Rey for an honest and inspiring conversation about music, family, creativity, and choosing your own path. Holly opens up about growing up in a deeply creative household, her family’s commercial bakery roots, and how a lockdown Instagram experiment with her little sister Mimi turned into a nationally broadcast TV show, Baking with the Rays, on SABC. From filming in their home kitchen to co-directing a full 24-minute television programme, Holly shares what it really takes to build something from scratch. We also dive deep into her music journey — from signing her first record deal with Sony ATV at just 13 years old, to navigating life as an independent artist today. Holly breaks down the realities of record labels vs independence, the truth about advances, and why she believes the independent route is often better for South African artists. Holly walks us through her full music-production process, from writing in her home studio to collaborating with beatmakers, producers, mixing engineers, and mastering specialists — including her work with Robbie from Jazz Works. Beyond her career, Holly shares deeply personal insights into: Growing up in boarding school while her mother battled cancer Life as a woman in South Africa Living in a house of seven women (self-named “the cabal of women”) Relationships, dating outside the music industry, and choosing independence Her openness to motherhood through adoption or a sperm donor Speaking English and Zulu, and learning Zulu alongside Mimi This episode is a powerful look at creativity, resilience, independence, and redefining success — whether in music, business, or life. If you enjoyed this conversation, don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share — it helps the podcast grow. Follow us on Instagram for more Mzansi In Motion Magic: / mzansiinmotion