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In this Ramazan special of All Things Money, Ammar H Khan speaks with Dr Irfan Rizvi of SIUT about one of Pakistan’s most remarkable public healthcare institutions and the model of giving, trust and service that powers it. The conversation explores how the Sindh Institute of Urology and Transplantation grew from a small unit into a major healthcare system that treats millions of patients without charging them at the point of care. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction: Ramazan, giving and SIUT 08:00 Why SIUT avoids the language of charity 12:00 How free care works without cash counters 16:00 The scale: millions of patients, major surgeries 20:00 Public healthcare, population pressure and prevention 24:00 Expanding beyond Karachi 28:00 Can the SIUT model be replicated? 32:00 Training staff and building institutional culture 36:00 Why efficiency matters more than money 40:00 Leadership, succession and long-term trust 44:00 What SIUT teaches about dignity and care 48:00 Final thoughts --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dawn News English is your window into the latest news, insight, and features from South Asia and beyond. Official Facebook: / dawndotcom Official Twitter: / dawn_com Website: www.dawn.com Official Instagram: / dawnnewsenglish #news #latestnews #dawnnewsenglish #dawnnews #SIUT #RamazanSpecial #Pakistan #Healthcare #PublicHealth #Giving #Philanthropy #DawnNewsEnglish