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Conversation recorded on August 13, 2020. In this conversation of the Consciousness, Communication, and Civilization series, John speaks with Newt Bailey. John and Newt have been close colleagues since 2005. Newt has been a trainer and coach in the work of Nonviolent Communication (NVC) since 2005, and is a collaborative trainer of the Bay Area NVC organization (BayNVC). He specializes in working with organizations, and with couples, as well as offering programs for the public. He has developed a unique approach to helping people learn and practice empathic communication that he calls Communication Dojo. Newt is based in the San Francisco Bay Area but has offered his work in different parts of the U.S. and internationally. For more information about Newt and his work, see https://www.communicationdojo.com and https://www.newtbailey.com. John Kinyon is a trainer, coach, mediator, speaker, author in the field of empathic communication. John co-created the international Mediate Your Life training program, based the work of Nonviolent Communication (NVC). For more information about John, his courses and programs, online events, and conflict coaching and mediation work, see https://www.johnkinyon.com. For more information about the conversations series, see https://johnkinyon.com/conversations/.