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Sponsored by Ground News: Compare news coverage. Spot media bias. Avoid algorithms. Try Ground News today and get 40% off your subscription by going to https://ground.news/perun How do you make sure you learn the right lessons from a war your troops aren't actively fighting in? The war in Ukraine is pressure cooker of technical and tactical innovation, and as militaries around the world are well aware, those innovations are unlikely to remain contained to the Ukrainian battlefield. And so today, in my second episode on NATO's SHINE event in Istanbul, I have a look at how NATO and Ukraine are trying to learn from each other and look at some of the technologies that they showed off for answering major battlefield threats like Russian glide-bombs and fiber-optic drones. It may be likely that not all lessons from Ukraine will apply to future wars, but countries have a clear imperative to learn those that might. And so today, let's talk JATEC, innovation challenges and...air-mines? Patreon: / perunau Reading and Sourcing: NATO RFIP - Medical Care in a Transparent and Contested Battlespace https://www.act.nato.int/wp-content/u... https://www.cvent.com/c/abstracts/5a8... NATO ACT on the Innovation challenges - note one that benefited Ukraine (land mines in 2024) predated JATEC https://www.act.nato.int/article/inno... NATO RFIP - Medical Care in a Transparent and Contested Battlespace https://www.act.nato.int/wp-content/u... https://www.cvent.com/c/abstracts/5a8... Previous NATO innovation challenges https://innovationhub-act.org/innovat... Reporting on European "Drone wall" ambitions https://www.defensenews.com/global/eu... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-1... Interceptor drone production in the UK https://www.defensenews.com/global/eu... within-weeks/ NATO ACT - Harnessing Innovation to Counter Glide Bombs https://www.act.nato.int/article/harn... ACT on Alta Ares winning entry for the Glide Bomb challenge / 1078480197654342 TYTAN https://www.tytan-technologies.com/ TYTAN interceptors being used in Ukraine https://www.janes.com/osint-insights/... ATREYD - Drone Wall https://atreyd.com/portfolio-item/dro... https://atreyd.com/atreyd-the-future-... https://atreyd.com/why-atreyd-solutio... Colonel Vytis Andreika - Russia’s Changes in the Conduct of War Based on Lessons from Ukraine https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journ... Examples of other interceptor projects with degrees of autonomy https://militarnyi.com/en/news/trl-dr... Reported Ukrainian interceptor developments https://militarnyi.com/en/news/ukrain... https://militarnyi.com/en/news/ukrain... Caveats & Comments: All normal caveats and comments apply. In particular – I note that this material has been created for entertainment purposes and is not intended to be a complete examination of the topic and should not be relied upon to inform financial or other any other views and/or decisions. Any content relating to the conduct, views, activities or any aspect of any person or character in this video is included for entertainment purposes and does not represent an assertion of fact on those matters or any matters in relation to that person or character. Care has been taken in compiling data, quotes, and other inputs from various sources but errors can occur. Quotes and included data should be considered illustrative, not definitive and their veracity should not be relied on. As noted in the video, I received some benefits from the host organisation (coffee and food) but did not receive compensation for travel costs, accommodation, or time spent at the event. All opinions expressed are solely my own. Timestamps: 00:00 — Opening Words 00:52 — What Am I Talking About 03:08 — Caveats 04:07 — JATEC & Lessons Learned 13:52 — the Innovation Challenges 16:00 — Evaluating the Model 18:17 — Fiber Optic Drones 28:12 — Glide Bombs & Shaheds 40:40 — Future Challenges 43:09 — the Model & the Beneficiary 52:25 — Channel Update