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In this episode of Talking Tokens, Jacquelyn Melinek speaks with Diogo Mónica, general partner at Haun Ventures, executive chairman and co-founder of Anchorage Digital, and board member of Erebor. Diogo explains how stablecoins, tokenized equities, and generative finance are evolving and why Haun Ventures invested in Palmer Luckey's Erebor Bank, which received the first national bank charter under the second Trump administration. He walks through why Erebor raised $635 million in committed capital to serve AI, crypto, and defense, how OCC-chartered banks differ from fintech apps that operate through partner banks, and why getting a proper federal charter matters for building trust. The conversation covers the founding team's expertise spanning Oculus, Anduril, Circle, and compliance backgrounds, how Erebor secured its charter in under eight months, and why this marks a shift toward more crypto-friendly banking regulation. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – Intro 01:44 – Why institutions are here but crypto tokens aren't going up 03:23 – Generative finance: turning language directly into financial products with AI 05:31 – Why Haun Ventures invested in Erebor, Palmer Luckey's new bank 09:10 – How Erebor secured its OCC charter in under eight months 12:22 – What an OCC charter means and why it matters for crypto banking 14:08 – How Erebor differs from fintechs like Mercury that aren't actual banks 17:43 – The future of banking: will new rails beat old incumbents 19:24 – Building trust in crypto banking after historical de-banking experiences 21:07 – The challenge of opening bank accounts with "crypto" in company names 22:07 – Behind Erebor's founding team ESSENTIALS You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or YouTube. If you enjoy the show, please leave a review — it really helps. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0LOgWxI... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Follow us on X Jacquelyn: / jacqmelinek Talking Tokens: / _talkingtokens Follow us on Instagram / _talkingtokens Note: This podcast is for informational purposes only. Views shared are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have financial interests in discussed content.