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In this follow-up conversation to Frontline Training Solutions’ popular webinar on workplace motivation, Nic Dampier sits down with Ryan Williams, Leadership and Team Development Manager at Frontline, to go deeper into what truly drives — and diminishes — motivation at work. Building on the frameworks shared in the webinar, Ryan unpacks three critical concepts every leader must understand: why perks and pay alone don’t motivate people, how intrinsic motivation is shaped by autonomy, competence, and connection, and how unseen friction inside systems and processes quietly erodes engagement over time. Together, Nic and Ryan explore real-world leadership challenges — from the hidden costs of micromanagement to the unintended consequences of over-relying on incentives — and challenge leaders to reflect on the environments they’re creating. They discuss how well-intentioned leaders often undermine motivation without realizing it, why “hands-off” leadership isn’t the same as autonomy support, and how clarity, curiosity, and coaching conversations can unlock ownership and follow-through. This episode also dives into practical applications leaders can use immediately, including identifying friction in performance management, onboarding, and daily workflows, designing meetings where all voices are heard, and shifting from control-based leadership to cultures built on trust, accountability, and growth. Whether you lead people on the frontlines, manage teams in manufacturing or professional environments, or are rethinking how to retain and engage talent in today’s shifting workforce, this conversation offers grounded insights and actionable strategies to help motivation stick — not just spike. Tune in to Behind the Frontline for honest conversations that challenge assumptions and equip leaders to build workplaces where people want to show up, grow, and contribute. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Learn more at www.frontlineon.com, where we partner with organizations to create thriving workplaces where everyone matters. Contact us today to discover how Frontline Training Solutions can support your leadership and organizational development goals.