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Original Episode Here: https://youtube.com/live/WEmMWznBZJo Caller Mats from the UK argues that the existence of Catholic and Orthodox churches proves Jesus's resurrection, but struggles to explain why this logic doesn't apply to other ancient religions. When hosts John and Paul attempt to establish a common framework by referencing the minimal historical Jesus accepted by most scholars, Mats immediately challenges their appeal to consensus—then later tries to use consensus himself. The conversation spirals as Mats deflects questions about why disciples would believe in the resurrection, brings up dubious Talmudic references written hundreds of years after Jesus, and ultimately accuses the hosts of starting from an atheist bias. Paul forcefully corrects this, explaining he was a devout Christian in ministry when he researched these topics. The call highlights a common apologetic pattern: circular reasoning where the conclusion (resurrection happened) is assumed in the premise (churches exist because resurrection happened), while simultaneously accusing skeptics of bias. SUPPORT THE NETWORK --------------------------------------------------- Patreon: / calltheline Become a Channel Member: / thelinecallinshows Send A Super Thanks (In Comments) SUPPORT PRODUCTION --------------------------------------------------- Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/mratheist Cashapp: https://cash.app/$jimmyasnow Amazon Wishlist: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls... MORE LIVE SHOWS & CLIPS --------------------------------------------------- The Line: / @qnaline CONTACT US --------------------------------------------------- contact@qnaline.com HOSTS --------------------------------------------------- ADDRESS --------------------------------------------------- The Line 110 N Interstate 35 Suite 315-1027 Round Rock, TX 78681 United States