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Why do so many leaders burn out before they ever give themselves permission to rest? In this episode of the Circle Podcast, trauma-informed BDSM educator, licensed life coach, and former Dominatrix Ms. Elle X reframes rest as radical self-advocacy—the most dominant thing you can do for your body, mind, and relationships. We explore why saying no is essential for true power, how rest and consent are two sides of the same coin, and what BDSM and femdom can teach leaders, caregivers, and space-holders about avoiding burnout. If you’ve ever struggled to slow down, felt guilty for resting, or wondered why you can’t stop performing for others, this BDSM podcast interview with a femdom will challenge everything you think you know about strength. ____ Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview | Interview with a Dominatrix 00:23 Exploring the Hidden Cost of Leadership with a femdom 01:33 The Struggle with Rest and Insecurity 05:41 The Importance of Consent and Boundaries 13:31 Self-Awareness and Embodiment Work 21:40 The Role of Rest in BDSM 24:58 Being Seen and Valued in Relationships 29:06 Dominance (dom/domme) and Submission (sub) D/S Dynamics 32:53 The Universal Lessons of BDSM from a femdom 34:56 The Importance of Humility in Leadership 37:50 Navigating Trust and Safety in Relationships 39:58 Understanding Rejection Sensitivity 43:53 Balancing Dominance and Vulnerability in femdom dynamic 49:56 The Power of Rest and Boundaries | BDSM Tips 59:32 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections ____ Glossary of Terms What is BDSM – An acronym for Bondage, Discipline, Dominance, Submission, Sadism, and Masochism. It refers to consensual practices that explore power exchange, sensation, and psychological play. At its core, BDSM is about communication, consent, and creating safe, intentional spaces for exploring power and desire. What is a Dominant (Dom/Domme) – The person who takes the leadership or guiding role in a BDSM dynamic. A Dominant holds space, sets structure, and creates safety, allowing the Submissive to fully let go. In healthy dynamics, the Dominant’s power is rooted in consent, responsibility, and respect. What is a Submissive (Sub) – The person who consensually surrenders control in a BDSM dynamic. For many, this surrender can feel deeply restful, freeing them from decision-making or the pressure of constant responsibility. Submissives are not passive; their active consent, communication, and boundaries are essential to the dynamic. What is a Switch – A person who enjoys both Dominant and Submissive roles, depending on the context or partner. Switches may move fluidly between roles, and this flexibility often gives them deep empathy and insight into both sides of the power exchange. What is D/S (Dominance and Submission) – Refers specifically to the dynamic or relationship between a Dominant and a Submissive. This can be sexual or non-sexual and is centered on consensual power exchange, clear communication, and trust. What is a Dominatrix – A professional female Dominant/Dominatrice who engages in consensual BDSM activities, often specializing in power exchange, discipline, and role-play. What is Femdom – A term describing Female Domination, where the woman holds the Dominant role in a BDSM or D/S dynamic. ____ *Stay Connected with The Circle* YouTube → / @queermensembodiment Instagram → / queermensembodiment Website & Community → https://www.myembodiment.com *Connect with Ms. Elle X* YouTube → / @ellex Instagram → / thewisedomme Patreon & Discord Community → / ellexerotica ____ If this episode resonated with you, share it, leave a review, and tag us—we love hearing what landed for you. And if you’re ready to explore conscious kink, self-advocacy, and empowered relationships, go follow Miss Elle X—her wisdom is next level.