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In this sixth episode of Conversations with MOXY, host Natasha Ozybko interviews Daryl-Ann Estill, a Project Manager at TD Industries and a powerful advocate for women in construction. The discussion focuses on deconstructing the harmful stereotypes that pigeonhole women as "too emotional" and explores the "art of unlearning" systemic biases that hinder career progression in the infrastructure space. Daryl-Ann counters the narrative that women are "sensitive" or "difficult to lead" with personal experience and scientific data. She highlights a critical disparity in the industry: men are often promoted based on unrealized potential, while women are only promoted after providing proven performance. Discover why gender equity is a survival strategy for the infrastructure industry and how senior leaders can move from surface-level inclusion to true systemic transformation. In this episode, we discuss: • Shattering the "Emotional" Label: Why labeling women as sensitive or aggressive strips them of "street credit" and leadership opportunities. • The Art of Unlearning: How both men and women must identify and reject societally conditioned gender roles. • The Overlooked Potential Effect: Addressing the bias where women must over-perform just to be considered for the same promotions given to men based on "potential". • Advocacy as a Business Imperative: Why the chronic labor shortage makes retaining the 50% of the population historically ignored a necessity for industry survival. • Psychological Safety: Creating an environment where women can contribute to high-stakes conversations without being interrupted or dismissed. • Systemic vs. Individual Change: Why senior leaders must use their power over policy and "purse strings" to shore up systemic equity. Key Quote: "Men and women’s emotions fluctuate to the same extent; they simply have different societal 'permissions' for how those emotions are expressed." About Our Guest: Daryl-Ann Estill is a Project Manager at TD Industries. Her viral insights into construction culture and systemic equity have made her a leading voice for women navigating and leading in the infrastructure sector. About Conversations with MOXY: MOXY elevates the voices of women and allies in infrastructure uncovering systemic gaps, challenging outdated norms, and driving real progress because women are not the exception: they are the workforce. Connect with us: • Website: https://themoxyvoice.com • LinkedIn: / moxy-the-voice-of-women-in-infrastructure • Instagram: @themoxyvoice #WomenInInfrastructure #ConstructionEquity #LeadershipBias #TDIndustries #UnlearningBias #WomenInTrades #ConversationsWithMOXY #shesgotmoxy