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This episode is a perspective on addiction that doesn’t get talked about enough the people who grow up around it. I sat down with Casey Conrad, a longtime leader in the health and wellness industry and author of Bitter or Better, to talk about what it was actually like being raised by an alcoholic mother. From the outside, her childhood looked normal. But behind closed doors, everything shifted when her parents divorced and her mom’s drinking became impossible to ignore. At just 12 years old, Casey stepped into the role of caretaker getting her mom to bed, managing the house, and learning very quickly how to keep the peace. It wasn’t something that felt “wrong” at the time… until she got to college and realized that not everyone grew up like that. What makes her story even more interesting is that she never picked up a drink. While addiction ran through her family, she chose a completely different path but that didn’t mean she escaped the impact. Now, with decades of experience in the health and wellness space, Casey has built a life and career centered around personal growth, discipline, and helping others improve their lives. Her book, Bitter or Better, dives deeper into her story and the mindset shift that allowed her to turn a difficult upbringing into something meaningful. In this conversation, we get into: What it’s like growing up with an alcoholic parent Becoming the peacekeeper and emotional regulator as a kid The anger and emotional suppression that shows up later in life Hyper-independence and why letting people in feels so hard How addiction affects people who never touch alcohol Breaking the cycle without becoming the addict The idea of being “better vs bitter” and what that actually looks like in real life We also talk about healing what it takes, what it doesn’t fix overnight, and how your past can shape you without defining you. This episode isn’t just about addiction. It’s about the ripple effect it has on everyone around it and what it looks like to rebuild from that. Whether you’re sober, sober curious, or someone who grew up in it, this one will hit.